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23fx23
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Unread post by 23fx23 » 31 Dec 2008, 00:05

Hi all
im new to usine, well sorry im a bit confused for now.

I made a touchscreen from a laptop tft and a cheap resistive glass, planing to control ableton live from a customizable interface.
I saw usine seemed to be able to do that.
First Q is it possible ?
when I tried (via midiyoke) to create a new empty workspace, create a fader, midi learn, the fader well react to incoming cc, but then if the fader sends out the refresh in aleton is very long, (maybe 1s or more), not usable.... what do I miss?

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Unread post by nay-seven » 31 Dec 2008, 01:01

hello and welcome

i think first thing you miss is Usine...;-)
what Live do that Usine can't..? why using a daw to control an other daw..?
seriously , don't know exactly where your latency arrive here , i suppose many reasons possible

second , could you share your experience with touchscreen diy..? I'm very interested in this way too..
and of course it's possible ...

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Unread post by senso » 31 Dec 2008, 08:13

23fx23 wrote:First Q is it possible ?
yes of course !
23fx23 wrote:when I tried (via midiyoke) to create a new empty workspace, create a fader, midi learn, the fader well react to incoming cc, but then if the fader sends out the refresh in aleton is very long, (maybe 1s or more), not usable.... what do I miss?
you're in the good direction, But don't use the remote option in the setup, which is very slow and designed for motorized faders.
You have to use the 'normal' midiout module.
Also in the 'Library/Midi Interfave Objects' you have a small collection of objects designed exactly for your purpose: just put them as sub patches in your main patch.

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Unread post by 23fx23 » 31 Dec 2008, 21:12

thank you for your reply,
ill check those options, but now it seems to work much better via enabling the audio engine (i first tried in off mode). now i will have lot of combinaisons, usine seems very powerfull , maybe i ll let down ableton later, but for me for now it's still easier/faster/ got tasks that "seems" more complicated to achieve in usine(ie warping/vst/session view...) but im sure with time i may find that im wrong and that everything is possible in usine, just need a bit of time to understand the beast. anyway i feel it can go very deep.cool

nay-seven for now I bought usine mainly for the interface builder, cause live isn't optimized at all for touch screen, and i must say it really rocks. even mono touch is fast enough to enable several switchs rapidly, with visual feedback., make quick access sequencers ect...and no mouse during performance! I found a 70euros resistive 17 inch pannel on ebay, plug in usb and it's done. also i read saw technology is better for moving actions, this is enough for many purposes...
i stil prefer real faders and pots for speed and accuracy, but tha'ts cool to have visual feedback on switchs, andscrolling the interface builder to put your controllers is sooo cooool!

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