Customized RC51

[Jules.W]

Hi,

I would like to customize the sampler RC51.
I don't plan to make huge modifications, only some basic things but I don't find the solution...

My problem is that I would like to un-synchronise all of the recorder/player layers.
I would like to be able to record the duration that I want inside each layers.

The fact is that when I record, I'm limited to record a certain duration.
I don't relly understand how it is synchronise... It's not about the tempo, not about the first loop duration, not about the beat... it's strange.

After this duration, the recorder stop the record and play the duration....

I would like to be unlimited about the record duration on each layers.
would you think it's possible?

My apologize for my poor english.
Thanks a lot.

[nay-seven]

Once the sync switch off,
add a fader to the max rec time inlet of the first sampler
same for the sampler in the subpatch (add only an inlet and applies the polyphony)
then link this inlet to your first fader

[Jules.W]

Thanks Nay for your quick reply!

I put the fader on the main/first sampler.
but I haven't got the "max rectime inlet" in the subpatch...

When I clic on the parametre in the setting windows, a message appeared which said Error = E032 in call callback procedure...

Any idea?

[nay-seven]

you need to open the subpatch slave loopers
expand the module sampler twice to see the inlet max rectime
add a data inlet module (choose once in poly in its properties)
close the sub patch and apply the polyphony
now you must see the inlet in the sub patch

[Jules.W]

Ha ok, I didn't get that we have two different levels to show parameters.

Super! It's work perfectly well!
If you have some time to explain me what's the parameter "Once in poly" it would be adorable!

Thanks a lot.

[Jules.W]

Ok....

I've just duplicate the RC51 on another rack with the fonction ctrl+drag and drop and I've receive a lot of error message...

"Error : E301 processe Looper RC51..."
Strange no?

I tried to save correct patch on a folder then dragged and drop it directly from the finder but it happened the same...

What does it mean?...

[nay-seven]

about the once in poly

are you sure the error is 301 ?

one of the possible error is if you still have old temporary samples in the sampler's ?

[Jules.W]

It's depend...

Sometime it's 301, sometime it's error E901, sometime E032...

I tried to clear the patch, re-open a new one directly from the browser.
Then I play it and it's work.

After that, I make all the modification that I want inside the patch:

- play loop mode
- free loop
- On activation: play once
- Max rec time: 120

And then, I tried to record several layers.
It works one time and the second time, the error E901scroll down in the trace windows...

have I forget something in the configuration?

--

Yesterday night, the looper worked very well before I go to sleep.
I woke up this morning, I've launched the workspace and it crash...

Strange don't you think?

[Jules.W]

In fact, the problem appeared when I decide to change the "max rec time".

I've tried a new approach:

- I've cleaned my rack and reopen a new RC51.
- I've opened the patch and I've changed the parameter manually for each SamplerRec (PlayLoop, FreeLoop, On activation: Play Once, Max Rec Time: 120). I didn't use "apply polyphony" because I've observed that most of the time, Usine forgot to configure some samplers...
- I did this for the Five first sampler and the error message appeared when i configured the sampler 6...

I've noticed also that this message appear when I've moved the MaxRecTime Cursor in the parameters.
When I move it further than 60s, it crash
Below that mesure, it's ok....

[nay-seven]

you'll find errors explanation on this wiki page

i can reproduce this 901 error only when i first record a master sample and then change the time, but it's quiet normal ?
901 refer to patch corruption (no script here)

here my patch, with basic applied polyphony, works
download

[Jules.W]

Hi,

Thanks Nay for all your propositions.
I've downloaded your patch but I couldn't read it because I've got Usine 2,0,069 and not the most recent version...
Could we continue to exchange some patches if we don't have the same version of usine?

[nay-seven]

no, this will not work, sorry

i really suggest you to upgrade if you can, cause 069 is 3 month old and you know that senso and Martin solve always bugs and add improvements ?

[Jules.W]

Yes, I know but I though that all the minor upgrades for the version 2 was free.
I was not informed by the new subscriber policy...

And unfortunately, I can't be able to pay another upgrade for the moment...

I hope it could be soon!

Thanks for you precious help.
My bug has mysteriously disappeared... and my set up begin to looks like interesting!

[Jules.W]

Another question...

I try to replace the pitch knob by a gain bouton for each layers of sampler
And I would like that when I push the "clear all" bouton, all of my gain knobs will be set on the 0dB Value.

Is it possible?
Because I've seen that the gain parameter is already routed with several mysterious cable...

Thanks a lot for your help.
Jules.

[Jules.W]

Actually, I've found the way to do this.

For the other readers and users, I've simply connected the reset knob to the gain inlet of the rec sampler.
I had to put a "pass if change" modul between to make it works.

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[nay-seven]

glad you have found your way !

[Jules.W]

Hi,

I need again your help about the custom of RC51...

I success to configure it as I want. (completely free of any tempo/grid with the possibility to recording free length for each layer of sampler).

Now I would like to use the Sync boutton.
I would like to configure this boutton in a way to launch all the samplers at each bar depend of the tempo.

In other word, when the sync boutton is off, the RC51 is free, when it's on, the recorder sampler is fixed by the tempo/grid.

I took a look of the patch and I success to follow the signal until the play boutton of the first Master sampler but I don't understand why it start with "Total ppq" of the Master Sync, what is this parameter, what does it mean?

What's the fonction of Calcul Master Modul which is just before the play input of Master Sampler.

I hope my english is understandable...
Thanks for all your light.
Jules.

[nay-seven]

Maybe not easy to hack, cause with this subpatch, the master sample is quantized with his pitch
if the pitch is low, the sample is longer, so the quantification is different.

[Jules.W]

Ha ok, but we can break this relation between pitch and quantification, no?

I already change the Pitch boutton of each sample by a Gain button,
I don't want use pitch at all.
Maybe it can help us?