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Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 10:05
by dsy
Hello

Usine shouldn't write to the "Program Files" folder, it is incompatible with the latest Windows versions and UAC feature of Windows Vista/Seven.
I know I can run Usine as administrator.

Following Microsoft requirements:
-If you need to write user data, use the "Documents" folder: FOLDERID_LocalAppData
-If you need to write system data, use the "Application Data" folder: FOLDERID_ProgramData

An example in Windows 7:
c:Users<username>DocumentsUsine
c:Users<username>AppDataLocalSensomusicUsine

Usine 5.25 beta 8

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 10:19
by senso
Yes I know but for that I have to create an "Installer" to install Usine properly.
Personally I prefer to keep the "Unzip and play" installation style.
So I don't know...

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 10:48
by dsy
ok I understand the problem, in fact I hate Windows Installer (MSI).
A basic setup program (like Inno Setup) should be nice for first users but I don't very like the idea.

Another idea, keep the ZIP file and Usine builds an environment at his first start:
-move (or copy) user data files in "DocumentsUsine"
-move (or copy) program data files in "AppDataLocalSensomusicUsine"
-open the quick start help page
-open a demo song
etc...

If I remember, Ableton Live does something like that, maybe you should look at.

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:21
by DriftZ
I would be happy with a new 'user' tab in the browser of which you can set the location in global setupand which contains your own work.
With the current rate of updates (which I appreciate very much btw) its a bit of a hassle to put your own work in the usine folder each time. (so far I think this the only way to show this in the usine browser)
I know you can browse to any location via 'open patch' but then you don't have the option to insert the patch as subpatch. When you drag a patch from the windows browser or something like total commander, you can tho.

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:23
by senso
do you have noticed that you can save your setup, midilearns an reload them in the new version?

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:38
by DriftZ
Oh, nice tip!
Still I think there is no way to access patches outside the usine folder (unless patch->open->browse->etc..)
While we're at it, what is the 'alternate drive' for ? It is not explained in the help file.

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:45
by dsy
"Alternate drive" seems to be a fail-over drive.
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1862

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:49
by DriftZ
ah thanks,
Shame on me, I should have used search first :cool:

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:52
by dsy
hehe, I did the same error about keyboard shortcuts ;)

Posted: 08 Sep 2010, 11:53
by senso
Alternate drive:
Alternative drive used is files aren't found on their original drive.
For example, all your files are on D: and for any reason, it has crashed and all you're data's are lost. Fortunately , you have another backup copy drive called G:. So if you tell Usine that your "alternate drive" is G: you'll be able to reload all your workspaces normally without changing the wave, midi, patch file names.
It's the ultimate rescue solution.