BrainModular

Can we get the standard use of ctl-A back? Maybe as a global option for compatibility.

I'm used to ctl-shift-s for saveAs and ctl-A for select all. All the software I use follows this convention, and especially working on scripts and going back and forth from a text editor, it drives me crazy!

thanks for listening!
-eric

It's an historical choise. And I know that the CTRL+A is not standard in usine.
Maybe it's time to start a more global reflexion on all the short-cuts.

well, you could also create a table for the user. That's becoming more and more common....

Other small things:
I also am having problems wanting to put tabs in the script window... and I'm used to dragging to select multiple objects. I really like the way usine moves the frame of view, but I would put that under a ctl-key if I had a choice, just for consistency with other programs.

not the #1 issue, but.... I do think these kinds of conventions are important to keep in mind.

cheers!
-eric

one other little gui gripe:

the 'timeout' on popup texfields. I realize I shouldn't leave the refrigerator door open while I'm deciding what to eat.... but--I do!

the need to double-click on list boxes to select an item. this one I got used to pretty quickly, but it confused me a LOT when I was first starting out.

-e

Hi,

You're right, Wodslanding, shortcuts are somewhat confusing (and keystroke+clicks too).
When you patch modular stuffs in Usine, then in Reaktor, then back in Usine, then... you just turn crazy!
I would also add the very popular ctrl+C, ctrl+X and Ctrl+V (copy, cut, paste) that don't work the same way in parameters textfiels, in patches textfields (typically the patch name), in the patching window (or sequencer) and so on.
I've already seen ctrl+L for Select All, in some cheap softs, but Usine is NOT a cheap soft!!!!
I think that Olivier is right: it's great time now to nomalize that according to the softs-world usage.
Maybe a customizable table, why not, but what is really important for ergonomy is to have first the right usual shortcut keys (ctrl-F9 for compilation is the right one, for example).
That's an old question now.
Certainly not so easy to perfectly implement everywhere in the gui...

the actual logic for short cuts is:

ctrl for wkp
ctrl+alt for patches

I think it's quite comfortable like that. the only big conflict is with the ctrl+A (save as). but I can't find a better candidate...

I don't really remember the most used save-as ctrl key combination is among all the various programs I use, but Ctrl-Shift-S is fairly common I think.

Hi,
Ctrl-Shift-S is a convention used in almost all the open source softs. Of course, let's forget window$

the [Ctrl-Shift-S] is not standard at all.

And if we want to respect the [ctrl] for wkp and [ctrl-alt] for patches it means that 'save as' will be:
[ctrl+shift+s] for wkp and [ctrl+shift+alt+s] for patches...tricky because we need 2 hands...
The ideal solution doesn't exist?

well then, maybe best to let the user choose via table. Although I can get ctl-alt-shift-s with one hand on my laptop.

I almost always 'saveAs' from the menu anyway--since I have to type in a new name, it's never just a quick keycommand like saving is....

ctrl+shift+s and ctrl+shift+alt+s are used in Photoshop for example (save as and save for the web).
One hand also ok for me
not against personal keymaping

ok, if you prefer;
let's try your suggestions.