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option to always set dropped/opened object as disabled

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Unread post by x.iso » 21 Jan 2018, 02:01

Although dropping some more complex things like whole racks might be impossible without audio dropouts, but at least forcing racks and patches to be disabled by default upon inserting while engine is running can be useful in multiple situations.
I know that I can save patches or racks disabled and they'll stay that way, but it's a big hassle to deal with.
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Unread post by senso » 24 Jan 2018, 11:34

this option will not help the dropouts if the patch/rack is heavy.
As you probably know now, I'm not a great fan of creating special options like that and have a huge setup. I try to maintain usine as affordable as possible.

but, the real improvement could be to be able to drop any thing without audio dropout. I will think about it.

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Unread post by gurulogic » 24 Jan 2018, 22:35

x.iso, I have in previous months been working in a similar fashion with loading complex patches without stopping audio. It is a little bit complex but when I find some free time (hopefully soon) I will try to share some tips.

senso, yes there are some modules etc that stop the audio when loaded in a patch even when not connected. I can't remember which ones off the top of my head but would be nice to resolve.

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Unread post by x.iso » 25 Jan 2018, 00:04

in my case midi generating VST would stop generating notes if the rack/patch loads too long (perhaps it stops receiving clock?), so a soft dropout occurs, but yes there's also buffer-displacement kind of audio dropouts sometimes.
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Unread post by x.iso » 25 Jan 2018, 13:45

gurulogic wrote:x.iso, I have in previous months been working in a similar fashion with loading complex patches without stopping audio. It is a little bit complex but when I find some free time (hopefully soon) I will try to share some tips.
that would be nice.

Although I understand that generally I shouldn't load things in the project in live situation while audio is playing and I'm supposed to prepare whole workspace of things I might need and then turn on or off them as I go. But last time I just didn't have enough time, exported all the stuff I might need, but didn't have time to fill the live workspace with everything I needed, so I was forced to mix live tracks with rendered ones and load workspaces as the player goes.

But yeah, if there's anything Senso can do about the dropouts while dropping things in workspace live, that would be awesome. I could cope with UI freezing, I guess that's inevitable. in Ableton live I usually don't experience any dropouts while dropping in whole sections of tracks (although it freezes the UI for a while), but perhaps the tracks there don't have any complex routing so it's easier.
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