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Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-12T13:09:59+02:00

As I've investigated, this is app-dependant behaviour. By default in Windows UI mouse pointer would be overriden by touch (absolute pointers get priority above relative one, which is mouse) all the time, but application can enable both to be treated individually. I can see this in browsers (Chrome and it's variants, like Opera) and in Bitwig. Thus I believe it should be possible to implement in Usine.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Apr 2019, 13:09

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-12T01:03:34+02:00

Check this out
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=490574
The mouse pointer jumps to the finger touch location most of the time.
This messes the workflow.

Statistics: Posted by Vas — 12 Apr 2019, 01:03

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-10T08:53:24+02:00

I've noticed that in Bitwig cursor never jumps to where touch is activated and can be used simultaneously with touch as well. So it is possible in DAW after all.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 10 Apr 2019, 08:53

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-10T05:57:26+02:00

my goal is to use the touch screen too

Statistics: Posted by gminorcoles — 10 Apr 2019, 05:57

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-11-08T15:35:19+02:00

Glad I came across this thread. Definitely learning a lot from here. Thanks for the tips, fellas!

Statistics: Posted by TimTight — 08 Nov 2018, 14:35

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-18T14:29:24+02:00

well, mouse is used to switch focus between apps so that keyboard shortcuts such as F keys, Ctrl+C could be executed in context of app in focus. To some extent this is still relevant, so I guess that's why it's like that. But at least I've read that HTML5 now supports mouse+touch at the same time and I can see in my browser that when I use touch and drag mouse, even though mouse is blinking, it doesn't 'teleport' to where I touch. If I do that on desktop or elsewhere it's a different story.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 18 Oct 2018, 14:29

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-18T09:49:29+02:00

There are apps and drivers for using more than one mouse at the same time, so that might help with not losing the cursor, but I don't think it will allow for using mouse and touch at the same time. It's a weird problem, since touch can be used in multiple places and apps at the same time, but as soon as mouse gets involved, it's ruins the input with it's legacy paradigm. I can think of just one realistic solution to that: emulate pen input with mouse, since pen and touch can be used in unison without a problem.

hi, tnx for the insight. really odd, that this is still(2018) such an issue..i really want to use both simultaneously..laptop screen-mouse, external screen-touch.. quite a "natural" set up, i thought.. touch-driven things like physics or biggish step sequencers on an external touch screen..clicky things like mixy stuff or the whole loop-editing business on the main-screen.

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 18 Oct 2018, 09:49

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-17T22:27:01+02:00

If driver is NOT DIGITAL SIGNED for using with Microsoft, WIN 7 won't allow it to work, even if the driver seems to be installed. That's why the device does no appear in Device Manager.

Statistics: Posted by Ariajazz — 17 Oct 2018, 22:27

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-16T14:41:06+02:00

There are apps and drivers for using more than one mouse at the same time, so that might help with not losing the cursor, but I don't think it will allow for using mouse and touch at the same time. It's a weird problem, since touch can be used in multiple places and apps at the same time, but as soon as mouse gets involved, it's ruins the input with it's legacy paradigm. I can think of just one realistic solution to that: emulate pen input with mouse, since pen and touch can be used in unison without a problem.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 16 Oct 2018, 14:41

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-16T13:34:04+02:00

sorry, just one question...is it possible to have one screen with touch and one with mouse @ the same time? i tried that years ago, but never was really satisfied, there were always some interference, like if you used touch, mouse cursor got completely lost and vice versa. dual-HID driver? i dunno..regards,

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 16 Oct 2018, 13:34

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-14T11:42:25+02:00

x.iso, Blaakk, thank you for your advices.
I couldn't set the external monitor as "primary display" because "Tablet Pc settings" was disabled from the system (ms config)
so it didn't appear in the control panel. Now I've found this, it works correctly!

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 14 Oct 2018, 11:42

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-14T04:38:12+02:00

You should be good to go. The touch is handled entirely over USB. There should be 'Tablet PC' settings if Windows recognises the touch-capable input device. On a desktop, and I'm assuming it applies to laptops, whichever monitor is set as the 'Primary' display is the one which reacts to the touch. Ie, if I set my 'non touch' display as the primary, then the (now secondary display's) touch input gets incorrectly routed to the wrong screen. I failed to find a way to set up a working touch-capable secondary display in Windows, (it's easy in Linux).

So... start by setting the external monitor as the primary display, if you haven't already. And if there are 'TabletPC' settings in the control panel.... click callibrate.

Hope this helps.

Statistics: Posted by Blaakk — 14 Oct 2018, 04:38

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-13T13:13:14+02:00

It doesn't work in general. And I can't find the "touchable" settings in control panel. It's a WIn 7 familial edition.
I'll keep on loooking on pc users forums.

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 13 Oct 2018, 13:13

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-12T21:34:28+02:00

Do you mean that your touchscreen doesn't work in general, not just Usine? There's should be a setting in control panel, to assign which monitor is 'touchable' and calibrate if needed.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Oct 2018, 21:34

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-12T16:03:03+02:00

Hello,

As mentioned in the subject I'm trying to use an external touchscreen (ViewSonic) on my laptop running Windows 7. I've got the last driver, and the connections between the laptop and the screen are USB and VGA.
But it doesn't work. Does someone use kind of the same configuration? Or had the same problem...?
Do I need RS 232 connection for it to work? And if so, how can I do as laptops don't have this connection?
An adaptor?
Thank you in advance

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 12 Oct 2018, 16:03

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-12T13:09:59+02:00

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Apr 2019, 13:09

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-12T01:03:34+02:00

Check this out
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=490574
The mouse pointer jumps to the finger touch location most of the time.
This messes the workflow.

Statistics: Posted by Vas — 12 Apr 2019, 01:03

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-10T08:53:24+02:00

I've noticed that in Bitwig cursor never jumps to where touch is activated and can be used simultaneously with touch as well. So it is possible in DAW after all.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 10 Apr 2019, 08:53

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2019-04-10T05:57:26+02:00

my goal is to use the touch screen too

Statistics: Posted by gminorcoles — 10 Apr 2019, 05:57

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-11-08T15:35:19+02:00

Glad I came across this thread. Definitely learning a lot from here. Thanks for the tips, fellas!

Statistics: Posted by TimTight — 08 Nov 2018, 14:35

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-18T14:29:24+02:00

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 18 Oct 2018, 14:29

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-18T09:49:29+02:00

There are apps and drivers for using more than one mouse at the same time, so that might help with not losing the cursor, but I don't think it will allow for using mouse and touch at the same time. It's a weird problem, since touch can be used in multiple places and apps at the same time, but as soon as mouse gets involved, it's ruins the input with it's legacy paradigm. I can think of just one realistic solution to that: emulate pen input with mouse, since pen and touch can be used in unison without a problem.

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 18 Oct 2018, 09:49

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-17T22:27:01+02:00

If driver is NOT DIGITAL SIGNED for using with Microsoft, WIN 7 won't allow it to work, even if the driver seems to be installed. That's why the device does no appear in Device Manager.

Statistics: Posted by Ariajazz — 17 Oct 2018, 22:27

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-16T14:41:06+02:00

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 16 Oct 2018, 14:41

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-16T13:34:04+02:00

Statistics: Posted by iococoi — 16 Oct 2018, 13:34

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-14T11:42:25+02:00

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 14 Oct 2018, 11:42

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-14T04:38:12+02:00

Statistics: Posted by Blaakk — 14 Oct 2018, 04:38

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-13T13:13:14+02:00

It doesn't work in general. And I can't find the "touchable" settings in control panel. It's a WIn 7 familial edition.
I'll keep on loooking on pc users forums.

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 13 Oct 2018, 13:13

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-12T21:34:28+02:00

Do you mean that your touchscreen doesn't work in general, not just Usine? There's should be a setting in control panel, to assign which monitor is 'touchable' and calibrate if needed.

Statistics: Posted by x.iso — 12 Oct 2018, 21:34

Touchscreen, laptop and Win 7

2018-10-12T16:03:03+02:00

Statistics: Posted by Gilsornette — 12 Oct 2018, 16:03