It could be good to have a high pass filter that cut at 30Hz, but we'll have to beg senso for that !
the 50Hz limit on the usine filter is not low enougth.
I made a patch for autolevelling just now, it is on the addons page
cheers
Olivar
Statistics: Posted by oli_lab — 25 Apr 2015, 21:26
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also, it may be beneficial to EQ what goes in the enveloppe follower as in your case, boosting the bottom end should give a better idea of what goes on in your sub and you'll be on a conservative side.
for my case (EBU128) it should be the opposite as loudness mesurements don't take low end as much as mid and highs into account.
After a bit of thought I think I better understand what you mean with the EQ. In my case, with the low/mid/hi crossover inputs available, it might make sense to take an average of the three frequency ranges for better peak control if any one range gets too hot (ie: DJ cranking the LF EQ to +12 because he thinks it will make his bass sound better..)for my case (EBU128) it should be the opposite as loudness mesurements don't take low end as much as mid and highs into account.
Something along these lines?
The worst is when somebody decides to switch a mixer on when the system is hot. Ouch!
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 25 Apr 2015, 21:19
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Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 25 Apr 2015, 21:04
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I was also planning to setup as 'multi channel' but linked to one master Env which would be receiving the complete frequency range as I will have the outputs of my speaker system (UP215) crossover each available as separate channels in Usine for further processing. I had considered being able to set separate threshold for each frequency range but that seems difficult as different styles of music tend to have a lot of variation in dynamic range across frequencies, so it might be hard to choose a fixed threshold on for example for example, just the subwoofer range, which in my case is apprx 20-90Hz.
In the case of my crossover outputs, with average music input or pink noise, the gain difference between frequency ranges can be quite significant with the HF coming into my audio interface much hotter than the lows and mids, however with a sine sweep, the energy is quite equal across the bands +-3dB which seems if anything a poor calibration in my crossover.
Anyways.. I'm happy to hear any suggestions on best usage in this case as my technical understanding of the math and physics side of how audio works is somewhat limited.
The 0.2ms delay was chosen by sending a short percussive sound as my source, setting a short release on the env follower and controlling an inverse fader so that as the input went to 0dB, the output volume module would go to -80dB, and then adjusting the delay until I would hear as little of the source sound as absolutely possible, which in this case was only the faintest little tick sound. When playing back a fuller sound, this setting did not seem to have as much relevance. May needs some more thought.. Also, not sure if this would be a factor but I have my Usine bloc size at 32 for this project to keep any and all latencies as low as possible.
Also FYI, the mapper module is in place to level out a non linear response I am getting in volume reduction as the gain goes up. For some reason, by the time my input was +12, the volume module would be at -17.There still is a tiny bit of drop off as the scale goes up but it seems mostly insignificant, at least for my uses. Also to note, the volume out module will always have -1dB set. I did this to keep the occasional small peak that can happen when rapidly changing levels from clipping the output.
Caption of module is changed with Alt + click, on Windows. Not sure for Mac.
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 25 Apr 2015, 20:29
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- why is the 0.2ms delay for ?
cheers
Statistics: Posted by oli_lab — 25 Apr 2015, 16:59
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I tried few months ago to build a feedback leveler to keep my live set at a broadcast level and save ears of people with headset.... but it was pumping a bit.
my goal was to keep a large dynamic range at anytime while having an average level roughly the same
just like in EBU128 except that it was done live.
I'll make a multichannel adaptation of our patch ! and use in conjonction with my autoleveler to tame things a bit more.
also, it may be beneficial to EQ what goes in the enveloppe follower as in your case, boosting the bottom end should give a better idea of what goes on in your sub and you'll be on a conservative side.
for my case (EBU128) it should be the opposite as loudness mesurements don't take low end as much as mid and highs into account.
cheers
Olivar
Statistics: Posted by oli_lab — 25 Apr 2015, 16:43
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The main intent my personal usage of this patch is to prevent redlining DJ's and other unfortunate mishaps from destroying my PA. This project is initially inspired by having to rebuild 5 of my subwoofers after a "free" event last summer, but is also inspired by all the benefits of having Usine HH as the central hub of my loudspeaker system.
"Auto Volume Limit is primarily an automatic volume control tool intended to be placed at the end of the signal chain as a speaker protection and will prevent the audio output from ever exceeding 0dB regardless of how hot the input signal gets, and without the coloration that may be added by compressors or limiters . It may also be useful for vocal or instrument volume leveling.
(disclaimer: Only lightly tested so far, so use with caution or keep a fire extinguisher on hand if testing the limits on real live speaker cones
"http://www.sensomusic.com/downloadaddon ... %201.0.pat
More stuffs to come..
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 25 Apr 2015, 11:21
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