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try this one out,
Harmony Rotator Beta
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 06 Oct 2012, 23:35
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how much are you thinking to pay someone to make a EWi expander type USine program?
is there something wrong with his affordable program you are not wanting to use it?
I just don't get it. :/
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 06 Oct 2012, 00:40
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i would also love to commission a Usine genius. Any takers.? Name your price patch programming geniuses!
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 04 Oct 2012, 00:16
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EWi harmonic expander
if the programs I was trying to make were already made so affordable I probably wouldn't be spending my time with USINE and MAX right now.
in any event this Xpander of John's would be a good program to dissect and see what challenges he overcame in the last two years.
I use a similar one Xposer from Zyklus IMPROVisor which is free, there you record your sequence and then step it into different keys with single notes from the instrument.
best of luck,
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 30 Sep 2012, 15:24
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I cannot see how many nobs or rotators as you call them are in the patch, only 3 of them are visible at the size of the GUI in my USine.
Originally I only knew of 4 of them, the fourth one is out of vision off to the left but I knew it was there since I found the octave module in the layout.
Today, I find a FIFTH transpose module inside USINE, I now connected that to the MIDI out port that needs to be created in the patch so we are going to see different results as far as MIDI OUTPUT goes.
when I play your piano roll (connected to MIDI IN of transpose modules) using FOrecast preset queued up to 4th (so it will trigger 1st)I get this from MIDI OX output port monitor.
FIrst NOTe (F 6) in sequence produces:
A 3
Bb 4
F 5
G 3
G 3
Second nOTe (D6) in sequence, unable Rotator note rotating any more....it's not cycling through the steps from notes in the piano roll as it does from notes coming in MIDI IN...have to try and set that up earlier in the stream...
I see you have some sort of hard wiring changes in the Rotator, for example when I press D5 it goes from patch 1 to 15.
it's actually really hard for me to test this patch further since I don't own Usine I cannot save any changes so before I can even use it each time I have to make a MIDI OUT port and connect all the transposers to it, then I have to change that line of Pascal to TRUE so the incoming midi data does not get forwarded to output, THEN add in your piano roll and connect that to all 5 transposers....
sorry could not be of more help, still it is a learning process to be able to look at these patches and tinker with them.
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 29 Sep 2012, 21:59
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load up this piano roll and send it to the rotator. select the patch 1st rotate and hit the reset button. It should start playing from just before bar 3 in the piano roll. if you reset the rotator before anything is played it should give an example of the double notes on producing muted notes in voices 3 and 4.
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 29 Sep 2012, 19:07
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Are you playing single notes in legato?
no chords on an Axiom25 controller/keyboard, the problem you described in the OP had to do with chords.jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 29 Sep 2012, 13:52
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a double note on produces silence
exactly! that was why I changed that part of the code, it seemed to indicate input note~output note, if memory serves me correct in Pascal it takes the sum of integers in this case how many FALSE or TRUE's come out of the equation for something to happen (in this case for incoming midi Data to go thru to the out port, I may have been wrong but...
it worked on my end, then again I am sending all 4 Modules out to my own midi output (instead of the MIdi Bus in the patch) and monitoring on Midi OX along with hardware synth modules.
Watching the data being put out the midi port thru Midi OX is how I know the original chord data (C major) is not being forwarded and the data of the offset dials, -7 -5, -22, -etc. is.
In theory if I set one of the dials to -3 and play a G 5 (3rdnote in a C chord) a E 5 should come out (which is also the second note in that C chord), however I am unable for some reason to change or save the changes to these variables in this patch so no way for me to test that since I don't own Usine all I can do is test presets and whatever they are set at, unless they are -6 -4 or -3 they don't correspond to any of the same notes in the original chord being produced.
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 29 Sep 2012, 05:19
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Actually that may be the source of the problem. I didnt notice this before but your right. Where is the volume filtering coming from?
i never intended to have this as a feature.
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 29 Sep 2012, 03:27
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I like this patch thank you sharing it, I was unable to duplicate your problem but did notice some unusual behavior as far as how it reacted to notes of various velocity.
A heavy note (vol 90--127) produced the triad, a lighter note (vol 10-50) also produced triad, however notes inbetween produce nothing..
I don't know if that is intentional or not, but can see how it may be advantageous in the right circumstances.
Actually that may be the source of the problem. I didnt notice this before but your right. Where is the volume filtering coming from?
i never intended to have this as a feature.
jerm
A heavy note (vol 90--127) produced the triad, a lighter note (vol 10-50) also produced triad, however notes inbetween produce nothing..
I don't know if that is intentional or not, but can see how it may be advantageous in the right circumstances.
Actually that may be the source of the problem. I didnt notice this before but your right. Where is the volume filtering coming from?
i never intended to have this as a feature.
jerm
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 29 Sep 2012, 03:26
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What is interesting is that this harmonizer that was made by fleau and that i adapted to send out to 4 different midi channels does not have the problem of my rotator. Perhaps i can add my rotation stuff to this harmonizer.
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 29 Sep 2012, 02:45
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Statistics: Posted by seamus — 29 Sep 2012, 01:50
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I will try changing what you changed and see if it helps.
cool def let us know it will make my day to know if it helped.from what I gather that command string passes incoming notes to the output, since disabling it with the value of TRUE they no longer go anywhere once they are received, with any luck that will solve a simple double midi note dilemma.
He has come a long way in the last few years in sounding more organic due to better control of data stream, implementation and synthesis.Regarding Onyx Ashanti I saw a Ted presentation on him.
The setup was very cool and futuristic although I wasn't so keen on it musically. Perhaps there are some more clips I can listen to.
I mostly follow the tech, not so much the music, although I do like the organic direction it is taking.
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 29 Sep 2012, 00:06
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The setup was very cool and futuristic although I wasn't so keen on it musically. Perhaps there are some more clips I can listen to.
Statistics: Posted by seamus — 28 Sep 2012, 23:46
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If Jeremy can add the code somehow I would be grateful but unfortunately code and pascal is beyond my reach.
huh, someone coming to me for code help, that will be the day! lol 
the guys that right these Pascal scripts are pro's and grad students, I'm just a musician with no formal training in such matters....
I hope what I did works for you but if so it really was pure chance that it did, changing one parameter on or off is simple sometimes but I wouldn't consider it writing code.
HEy if you are a wind synth player you should check out what ONYX Ashanti is doing with pure data and his own "beatjazz" system if you haven't already, truly revolutionary stuff!
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 28 Sep 2012, 23:33
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If one of the voices in the rotation receives a note on for the same note it just played the note wont sound.
ex:
V1 c3 d3
v2 e3 e3
V3 g3 f3
the second voice of the second chord wont play because it is receiving the same note.
Can anyone help?
I took a stab at it, inside the code for "transpose> Module" I changed this line:ex:
V1 c3 d3
v2 e3 e3
V3 g3 f3
the second voice of the second chord wont play because it is receiving the same note.
Can anyone help?
pKeep := CreateParam('keep input', ptSwitch); SetIsOutput(pKeep, TRUE);
from False to True in all four modules,
Now if I send in a C chord in octave 5 with setting "forecast" these notes comes out:
First press:
G# 4
E 4
B 4
Second:
E 4
G# 4
B 4
Third:
A 4
F# 4
D 4
Forth:
E 4
G# 4
B 4
The C 5, D 5, and E5 never make it through to the midi out port (which had to be created for this patch), although I can hear them at the same time since they are also going to external modules.
jerm
Statistics: Posted by jeremysdemo — 28 Sep 2012, 23:26
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