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BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2008-01-17T17:26:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3532008-01-17T17:26:47+02:002008-01-17T17:26:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3634#p3634 and thanks again!
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 17 Jan 2008, 16:26
]]>2008-01-17T17:22:27+02:002008-01-17T17:22:27+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3633#p3633I'll post the update in the download section very soon.
]]>2008-01-17T02:30:10+02:002008-01-17T02:30:10+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3632#p3632i don't know the specifics, but olivier sent me a version of usine which fixed the problem very shortly after i sent him the log file. it was apparently a fix with respect to the ASIO sync code...(?).
ah, i see that v3.52 has been released. this is the same version number which appeared on the version he sent me, so i assume the fix is in the latest drop.
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 17 Jan 2008, 01:30
]]>2008-01-16T23:50:14+02:002008-01-16T23:50:14+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3631#p3631Statistics: Posted by bsork — 16 Jan 2008, 22:50
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2008-01-16T23:05:56+02:002008-01-16T23:05:56+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3630#p3630 very impressive.
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 22:05
]]>2008-01-16T14:53:06+02:002008-01-16T14:53:06+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3627#p3627Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 13:53
]]>2008-01-16T13:26:38+02:002008-01-16T13:26:38+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3625#p3625run usine and send me the LogUsine.log by mail at contact@sensomusic.com
]]>2008-01-16T02:54:48+02:002008-01-16T02:54:48+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3623#p3623 i am in the process of evaluating whether it suits my needs, but in the process i have encountered an issue which i would like to share.
since the forum anti-spam system requires that i post in an existing thread before starting a new subject, i have chosen this one since it most closely represents the issue which i am encountering:
when i use my echo indigo audio device (latest driver 7.3) for ASIO on my laptop, i get a very annoying noise (loud buzz - not sure what the right word is - ) when audio is running and i move an object or simply click on the title bar of a dialog box in usine (for example click on title bar in setup dialog).
i have tried increasing and decreasing the buffer size (i use 128 normally), shutting off hardware acceleration and various other things, but nothing changes this behaviour at all.
ASIO4ALL works perfectly with the onboard audio. no noise at all when doing the same actions.
so there is some problem in interacting with the driver, as far as i can tell.
since i want to use the indigo sound card (for various reasons) i am hoping someone can point me to the solution, or a bug fix can be issued, if necessary.
does anyone else use the echo indigo successfully?
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 01:54
i'm happy cause i' have already better results than with the Asio4All.
Of course! Good new, martignasse, I'm happy for you. Since Usine is becoming a heavy soft in the music-soft world, improvements will more and more take Usine's power into account. Thanks for your feedback.
Statistics: Posted by Vincent — 29 Jul 2007, 14:06
]]>2007-07-25T09:35:52+02:002007-07-25T09:35:52+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2437#p2437Statistics: Posted by senso — 25 Jul 2007, 09:35
]]>2007-07-23T22:30:58+02:002007-07-23T22:30:58+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2431#p2431 I bring back this thread just to let you know the good news.
A driver update for my ESP1010 soundcard seem's to solve my problem.
I have deeper test to do, but i'm happy cause i' have already better results than with the Asio4All.
that's it, i'm happy.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 23 Jul 2007, 22:30
]]>2007-05-26T00:03:04+02:002007-05-26T00:03:04+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2097#p2097 it's always the same
i don't now if you done some specific work in this version for this problem.
i have to admit it is very frustrating, even if i know it's a very specific problem (just me concerned).
it's just like if i bought a ferrari running in mode "2CV"
PS : i don't know if you investigate this Windows bug workaround.
anyway, many happiness with this new version , even if i'm far to exploit all these new features.
A+
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 May 2007, 00:03
]]>2007-04-27T20:55:09+02:002007-04-27T20:55:09+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1811#p1811 Yes, i receive it, i tested just now and mail you the feedback by mail, in french.
For short and for other to know, it change nothing to my problem (
But i don't desesperate to find a solution...
PS : and maybe see you in LYON the 8th, but i fly to montreal the 9th.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 27 Apr 2007, 20:55
]]>2007-04-27T19:05:27+02:002007-04-27T19:05:27+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1807#p1807did you receive the new version by mail (mfleurent@...)?
]]>2007-04-26T20:54:33+02:002007-04-26T20:54:33+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1802#p1802Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 20:54
]]>2007-04-26T19:03:32+02:002007-04-26T19:03:32+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1801#p1801 yep, i like said in my profil, i'm in Lyon, and no problem to let you check the beast if you come near the place.
No probleme to wait for a special version, you'r kind enough to make a version especialy for my case, so
oups, i completly forget the dual core optimisation option, shame on me, it's the first thing i'll do when come back at home.
and i think to it's a low level soft problem.
anyway, thanks to try something......after i tested this dual core option
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 19:03
]]>2007-04-26T18:34:58+02:002007-04-26T18:34:58+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1800#p1800I should try the sound card myself... no so impossible if you somewhere in France!!! I looks like the pb comes from "thread priority" management. I will send you a new version in let say two weeks (I'm on tour, I can't do it right now). Don't worry we'll find a solution. By experience I know that 99.99% of troubles like this comes from a soft pb: Usine or other installed (conflict) soft. Did you try the dual core optimization (enabled/disabled) in the set up?
]]>2007-04-26T16:29:47+02:002007-04-26T16:29:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1798#p1798 i'm completly agree with you, the Asio4All is just a replacement solution, i must found the problem.
no way to change the audiocard, it's just all what i need, essentialy the number of input and the two monitors.
I dont use the DIRECTWIRE, at least for now. i just choose the driver on the setup page and play the conductor demo workspace, who produce only one stereo output. No need to redirect some output/input.
the fact is the problem just come up with usine, the test i made with the official driver in Sonar LE, ASIO mode and Live 4.1.5, ASIO mode was just fine, 2ms latency in live, if i remenber......but to many test in my head these days 8-( .
i suspect the trio intel G965 Express chipset + usine + official driver to produce the problem. And because it occure only with usine with a very strange behiavour (some random audio glitch, but a king of audio buffer freeze when a push down the mouse button, for approximativly one seconde, or until i move it or push up) i ask myself if it can be related with the way usine deal with input/output/graphic. But the usine log file just say nothing special.
question to senso : is it possible to make a debug version to track down the audio buffer and the mouse activity ?
Anyway, i can say that i'd prefer to make some good add-ons and share some great knowledge than tracking this mad problem.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 16:29
]]>2007-04-26T14:59:56+02:002007-04-26T14:59:56+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1794#p1794You should not use ASIO4ALL with your audio car. There must be a solution. What's your setup in DIRECTWIRE? What other soft do you run, including your common wave player? In last resort, could you change your audio card to another of the same type with ASIO driver included? I can say that with my ECHO, everything works OK. Maybe have a look to this one which is a little bit more expensive than yours. Or to mine, which is a little less expensive... But well, I'm sure your ESP 1010 must work fine... There must be a solution. Sorry for my incompetence!
I know this is a bit off topic (sorry martignasse)
No problem, it's an interesting technical question and it make the thread active..... and maybe, sometime, someone will come and save me with this *%$@£!! driver/config problem
Hi Bjørn, and sorry martignasse, you can throw us outside! Well, I probably won't have the technical words to explain it, but it's not really magical... I have on my Echo Audio 8 "ports" (like tracks), that is 4 stereo ports or whatever I want (martignasse have 10 stereo ports).
In fact, the ESP1010 have 8 analogic mono in/out and 2 numeric mono in/out, so end up with a total of 5 stereo in/out.
I can plug each soft to any port in its respective setup window. Usine uses ports 1 and 2, and they use ASIO driver. GigaStudio uses ports 3 and 4 and I turned them to GSIF driver. Since I have sometimes to edit some audio samples with CoolEdit Pro, I plugged it to the 5th and 6th ports, turned to PureWave driver. All other audio applications that I never use together are plugged on ports 7 and 8 (ASIO again). My audio card has a virtual mixing console allowing me to route a group or all the mixed audio to analog and/or digital outputs. My audio card is an internal 4in/4out. Martignasse has an external 10in/10out. Am I right, martignasse?
the ESP1010 work the same, with DIRECTWIRE to make virtual patching off in/ou between different drivers. You can go to the review thru the link given earlier, at the end, it's explained the way DIRECTWIRE work. Like i said, the ESP1010 is 5 stereo in/out (not so bad for 250 euros)
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 14:25
]]>2007-04-26T08:37:46+02:002007-04-26T08:37:46+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1784#p1784Statistics: Posted by bsork — 26 Apr 2007, 08:37
]]>2007-04-25T23:07:41+02:002007-04-25T23:07:41+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1783#p1783Well, I probably won't have the technical words to explain it, but it's not really magical... I have on my Echo Audio 8 "ports" (like tracks), that is 4 stereo ports or whatever I want (martignasse have 10 stereo ports). I can plug each soft to any port in its respective setup window. Usine uses ports 1 and 2, and they use ASIO driver. GigaStudio uses ports 3 and 4 and I turned them to GSIF driver. Since I have sometimes to edit some audio samples with CoolEdit Pro, I plugged it to the 5th and 6th ports, turned to PureWave driver. All other audio applications that I never use together are plugged on ports 7 and 8 (ASIO again). My audio card has a virtual mixing console allowing me to route a group or all the mixed audio to analog and/or digital outputs. My audio card is an internal 4in/4out. Martignasse has an external 10in/10out. Am I right, martignasse?
Statistics: Posted by Guest — 25 Apr 2007, 23:07
]]>2007-04-25T21:13:33+02:002007-04-25T21:13:33+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1782#p1782Statistics: Posted by bsork — 25 Apr 2007, 21:13
]]>BrainModularBrainModular Users Forum2008-01-17T17:26:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/app.php/feed/topic/3532008-01-17T17:26:47+02:002008-01-17T17:26:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3634#p3634 and thanks again!
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 17 Jan 2008, 16:26
]]>2008-01-17T17:22:27+02:002008-01-17T17:22:27+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3633#p3633I'll post the update in the download section very soon.
]]>2008-01-17T02:30:10+02:002008-01-17T02:30:10+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3632#p3632i don't know the specifics, but olivier sent me a version of usine which fixed the problem very shortly after i sent him the log file. it was apparently a fix with respect to the ASIO sync code...(?).
ah, i see that v3.52 has been released. this is the same version number which appeared on the version he sent me, so i assume the fix is in the latest drop.
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 17 Jan 2008, 01:30
]]>2008-01-16T23:50:14+02:002008-01-16T23:50:14+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3631#p3631Statistics: Posted by bsork — 16 Jan 2008, 22:50
]]>2008-01-16T23:05:56+02:002008-01-16T23:05:56+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3630#p3630 very impressive.
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 22:05
]]>2008-01-16T14:53:06+02:002008-01-16T14:53:06+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3627#p3627Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 13:53
]]>2008-01-16T13:26:38+02:002008-01-16T13:26:38+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3625#p3625run usine and send me the LogUsine.log by mail at contact@sensomusic.com
]]>2008-01-16T02:54:48+02:002008-01-16T02:54:48+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=3623#p3623 i am in the process of evaluating whether it suits my needs, but in the process i have encountered an issue which i would like to share.
since the forum anti-spam system requires that i post in an existing thread before starting a new subject, i have chosen this one since it most closely represents the issue which i am encountering:
when i use my echo indigo audio device (latest driver 7.3) for ASIO on my laptop, i get a very annoying noise (loud buzz - not sure what the right word is - ) when audio is running and i move an object or simply click on the title bar of a dialog box in usine (for example click on title bar in setup dialog).
i have tried increasing and decreasing the buffer size (i use 128 normally), shutting off hardware acceleration and various other things, but nothing changes this behaviour at all.
ASIO4ALL works perfectly with the onboard audio. no noise at all when doing the same actions.
so there is some problem in interacting with the driver, as far as i can tell.
since i want to use the indigo sound card (for various reasons) i am hoping someone can point me to the solution, or a bug fix can be issued, if necessary.
does anyone else use the echo indigo successfully?
Statistics: Posted by JamminFool — 16 Jan 2008, 01:54
i'm happy cause i' have already better results than with the Asio4All.
Of course! Good new, martignasse, I'm happy for you. Since Usine is becoming a heavy soft in the music-soft world, improvements will more and more take Usine's power into account. Thanks for your feedback.
Statistics: Posted by Vincent — 29 Jul 2007, 14:06
]]>2007-07-25T09:35:52+02:002007-07-25T09:35:52+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2437#p2437Statistics: Posted by senso — 25 Jul 2007, 09:35
]]>2007-07-23T22:30:58+02:002007-07-23T22:30:58+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2431#p2431 I bring back this thread just to let you know the good news.
A driver update for my ESP1010 soundcard seem's to solve my problem.
I have deeper test to do, but i'm happy cause i' have already better results than with the Asio4All.
that's it, i'm happy.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 23 Jul 2007, 22:30
]]>2007-05-26T00:03:04+02:002007-05-26T00:03:04+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=2097#p2097 it's always the same
i don't now if you done some specific work in this version for this problem.
i have to admit it is very frustrating, even if i know it's a very specific problem (just me concerned).
it's just like if i bought a ferrari running in mode "2CV"
PS : i don't know if you investigate this Windows bug workaround.
anyway, many happiness with this new version , even if i'm far to exploit all these new features.
A+
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 May 2007, 00:03
]]>2007-04-27T20:55:09+02:002007-04-27T20:55:09+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1811#p1811 Yes, i receive it, i tested just now and mail you the feedback by mail, in french.
For short and for other to know, it change nothing to my problem (
But i don't desesperate to find a solution...
PS : and maybe see you in LYON the 8th, but i fly to montreal the 9th.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 27 Apr 2007, 20:55
]]>2007-04-27T19:05:27+02:002007-04-27T19:05:27+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1807#p1807did you receive the new version by mail (mfleurent@...)?
]]>2007-04-26T20:54:33+02:002007-04-26T20:54:33+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1802#p1802Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 20:54
]]>2007-04-26T19:03:32+02:002007-04-26T19:03:32+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1801#p1801 yep, i like said in my profil, i'm in Lyon, and no problem to let you check the beast if you come near the place.
No probleme to wait for a special version, you'r kind enough to make a version especialy for my case, so
oups, i completly forget the dual core optimisation option, shame on me, it's the first thing i'll do when come back at home.
and i think to it's a low level soft problem.
anyway, thanks to try something......after i tested this dual core option
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 19:03
]]>2007-04-26T18:34:58+02:002007-04-26T18:34:58+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1800#p1800I should try the sound card myself... no so impossible if you somewhere in France!!! I looks like the pb comes from "thread priority" management. I will send you a new version in let say two weeks (I'm on tour, I can't do it right now). Don't worry we'll find a solution. By experience I know that 99.99% of troubles like this comes from a soft pb: Usine or other installed (conflict) soft. Did you try the dual core optimization (enabled/disabled) in the set up?
]]>2007-04-26T16:29:47+02:002007-04-26T16:29:47+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1798#p1798 i'm completly agree with you, the Asio4All is just a replacement solution, i must found the problem.
no way to change the audiocard, it's just all what i need, essentialy the number of input and the two monitors.
I dont use the DIRECTWIRE, at least for now. i just choose the driver on the setup page and play the conductor demo workspace, who produce only one stereo output. No need to redirect some output/input.
the fact is the problem just come up with usine, the test i made with the official driver in Sonar LE, ASIO mode and Live 4.1.5, ASIO mode was just fine, 2ms latency in live, if i remenber......but to many test in my head these days 8-( .
i suspect the trio intel G965 Express chipset + usine + official driver to produce the problem. And because it occure only with usine with a very strange behiavour (some random audio glitch, but a king of audio buffer freeze when a push down the mouse button, for approximativly one seconde, or until i move it or push up) i ask myself if it can be related with the way usine deal with input/output/graphic. But the usine log file just say nothing special.
question to senso : is it possible to make a debug version to track down the audio buffer and the mouse activity ?
Anyway, i can say that i'd prefer to make some good add-ons and share some great knowledge than tracking this mad problem.
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 16:29
]]>2007-04-26T14:59:56+02:002007-04-26T14:59:56+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1794#p1794You should not use ASIO4ALL with your audio car. There must be a solution. What's your setup in DIRECTWIRE? What other soft do you run, including your common wave player? In last resort, could you change your audio card to another of the same type with ASIO driver included? I can say that with my ECHO, everything works OK. Maybe have a look to this one which is a little bit more expensive than yours. Or to mine, which is a little less expensive... But well, I'm sure your ESP 1010 must work fine... There must be a solution. Sorry for my incompetence!
I know this is a bit off topic (sorry martignasse)
No problem, it's an interesting technical question and it make the thread active..... and maybe, sometime, someone will come and save me with this *%$@£!! driver/config problem
Hi Bjørn, and sorry martignasse, you can throw us outside! Well, I probably won't have the technical words to explain it, but it's not really magical... I have on my Echo Audio 8 "ports" (like tracks), that is 4 stereo ports or whatever I want (martignasse have 10 stereo ports).
In fact, the ESP1010 have 8 analogic mono in/out and 2 numeric mono in/out, so end up with a total of 5 stereo in/out.
I can plug each soft to any port in its respective setup window. Usine uses ports 1 and 2, and they use ASIO driver. GigaStudio uses ports 3 and 4 and I turned them to GSIF driver. Since I have sometimes to edit some audio samples with CoolEdit Pro, I plugged it to the 5th and 6th ports, turned to PureWave driver. All other audio applications that I never use together are plugged on ports 7 and 8 (ASIO again). My audio card has a virtual mixing console allowing me to route a group or all the mixed audio to analog and/or digital outputs. My audio card is an internal 4in/4out. Martignasse has an external 10in/10out. Am I right, martignasse?
the ESP1010 work the same, with DIRECTWIRE to make virtual patching off in/ou between different drivers. You can go to the review thru the link given earlier, at the end, it's explained the way DIRECTWIRE work. Like i said, the ESP1010 is 5 stereo in/out (not so bad for 250 euros)
Statistics: Posted by martignasse — 26 Apr 2007, 14:25
]]>2007-04-26T08:37:46+02:002007-04-26T08:37:46+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1784#p1784Statistics: Posted by bsork — 26 Apr 2007, 08:37
]]>2007-04-25T23:07:41+02:002007-04-25T23:07:41+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1783#p1783Well, I probably won't have the technical words to explain it, but it's not really magical... I have on my Echo Audio 8 "ports" (like tracks), that is 4 stereo ports or whatever I want (martignasse have 10 stereo ports). I can plug each soft to any port in its respective setup window. Usine uses ports 1 and 2, and they use ASIO driver. GigaStudio uses ports 3 and 4 and I turned them to GSIF driver. Since I have sometimes to edit some audio samples with CoolEdit Pro, I plugged it to the 5th and 6th ports, turned to PureWave driver. All other audio applications that I never use together are plugged on ports 7 and 8 (ASIO again). My audio card has a virtual mixing console allowing me to route a group or all the mixed audio to analog and/or digital outputs. My audio card is an internal 4in/4out. Martignasse has an external 10in/10out. Am I right, martignasse?
Statistics: Posted by Guest — 25 Apr 2007, 23:07
]]>2007-04-25T21:13:33+02:002007-04-25T21:13:33+02:00https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=353&p=1782#p1782Statistics: Posted by bsork — 25 Apr 2007, 21:13
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