It`s an x-roll actually.
x-movement rolls, y-movement sets the step level. This adresses also my "thick fingers - small bars" problem.It is much more reliable now but far from perfect so I will not post it under addons As the movement distinction block should come first a "display only" mode switching internal editing of would help. But maybe I`m blind here and there is a better workaround?
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Edit,: nice!
Even though I beat you to the puch (by 1/2 second) , I couldn't have done it without you, and your way is better I think..
Thanks and have a good sleep!
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 10:28
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here it seems ok now
edit: we post ed at same time! cool.look at mine it's simpler, swap only the last array before entering step.
bed time for me to
Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 06 Mar 2010, 10:25
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now it's bed time...
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 10:24
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hmm, yeah overide mode. I was thinking it would be cool to b able to "resequence" the loops MLR or Molar style , including the altered steps but to do that I need to modify the postion of the Step Module but that only works in Button Synchro mode.
yes, and it's the way to do it i think. generate a 0-16 clock fitting a bar, then the button/controls would reset the clock at desired position. ie if clock is at 8th step, in midlle and you press step 2 it resets clock to 2. ive done somesing similar using amodB module, have to retest that...Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 06 Mar 2010, 10:03
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It definately has made my head hurt ..
I also don't understand why the problem in the first place. Both "sides" of the 16 +16 array "should" do exactly the same thing so far as I can tell..
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 10:00
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so it seems to work now with your patch if you delete the stop module in both "reverse step" subpatch, and make a button instead of swich.
Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 06 Mar 2010, 09:47
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from what i feel when using one only array to edit and "feedback" at same time, the swap should be a pulse, not a constant 1 value,
try to think in "process" order , on a pulse it stops normal array, let pass the swap array to array edit, that continues loopin back, without being swapped anymore, as the pulse is then 0. if it's a swich, it's 1 so the preswaped reswap ect...
iguess pb comes from here, but putting a buton instead of your swich doesn't solve the pb in the patch, have to look deeper..
Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 06 Mar 2010, 09:33
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Maybe another option would be use a 4 channels sampler and as soon as you go "live", all the current sequences are resampled.?.... almost a good idea, maybe.
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 09:31
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for the tool you describe your patch seems really good to edit/save preset, maybe an overide mode for live where you directly click on 16xbuttons or an area on wavform display for live mode, it should be doable to combine both...
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Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 09:11
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err, I just noticed I have a serious scaling problem when switching existing 16 step sequence to 32 steps...
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 08:51
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I've uploaded the whole patch this time so you can have a better overview of what I am trying to accomplish. If you download Molar VST from http://www.xferrecords.com/molar/MolarPC.zip, there is a sample imbeded already so you can just load the patch and see without any fiddling around (Or just load a loop in the sampler)
If you navigate Empty Sub Patch > Step >, you will see the array mess. The step reversing is done in the two reverse step sub patches. Just the top one for 16 steps and both for 32 steps.
I have big hopes for this patch (x8;) ), hopefully touchscreen friendly Monome style play and maybe eventually even Monome control.. but I may need lots of help... or suggestions?
http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... xample.pat
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 08:32
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Q: Im not sure i catch what you want, is it controlling a bigger 32 array with a "window" of 16 lengh alternatively displaying 1-16- 17-32 parts to edit or switching from a 16 to 32 step display? or maybe even something else...
i will look the patch..
Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 06 Mar 2010, 08:07
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Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 06 Mar 2010, 03:33
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http://www.sensomusic.com/forums/upload ... e=Step.pat
edit:
ok, I figured it out finally. Got rid of the Shift Array and joined the 2 16 step arrays to Concat Array > Set Array Size(32) to 32 step input and a stop event from going back to the bottom Extract Array when only 16 step enabled...if that makes any sense at all?
I think this is going to turn into a nice little addon to share ...
(teaser: My "project name" is MLR-Like
)The title of this thread should fit any further array questions I might have...thanks!
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 05 Mar 2010, 19:47
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@guru: can you upload the patch, ill try to have a look.
from what I feel pb comes that in any case in your patch, the array feeding back to the lines are with a lengh of 16,(here you add the two arrays, with is different than concating) whereas when you are in 32 mode, the input array should have a lengh of 32. if you feed lines wih a 16 lengh array while forcing step nb to 32, it creates the crasy loop. I would edit separately the 16x A and B parts, then concat them to get a 32 lengh array (so without shifting B part), if in 16 mode, add a set arraysize out of the 32 to 16, ro reduce lengh to first 16 steps.
nope.the workaround is to add a pass if change for each value of the array. this would be a nice add.Also, is there any way to pass only changed values from an array and filter out all unchanged values?
Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 05 Mar 2010, 14:04
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I try to roll a step modul with x-movement but it seems like the internal connection of the xy area interferes with the fed back processed events.
Statistics: Posted by Eskadrone — 05 Mar 2010, 11:23
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I am still wrapping my head around arrays so there's a chance I have done something really silly?
Anyways, if this screenshot is hard to understand, I can upload the patch.
Also, as a super bonus I would like to be able to mirror the steps 1-16 to 17-32 but scaled +16 when switching to 32 step mode.
I've mostly given up on trying to do that for now, but if anyone has any quick idea?
Also, is there any way to pass only changed values from an array and filter out all unchanged values?
Statistics: Posted by gurulogic — 05 Mar 2010, 10:17
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