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btw, it could be interesting for BCR users as well: if u change the behavior of the B-Control with BC-Convert (eg. choose different resolutions dependable from knob turning speed). havent got a problem myself, but i guess u could emulate the behavior of the axiom for the BCR..
http://www.sequencer.de/synth/index.php/BC-Convert
Statistics: Posted by amiga909 — 29 Oct 2009, 12:24
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Thanks for the upload. i will see if it works with the novation as well.
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Statistics: Posted by woodslanding — 29 Oct 2009, 01:42
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Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 09 Oct 2009, 12:30
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The BCF/BCR used as a "remote" receives the CC values back from Usine so that the whole thing can operate with absolute values and update each other. The Axiom OTOH, can't receive anything so it only sends data about incrementing and decrementing the values, but it has several ways of generating slightly different relative CC formats which all have data2 values (normally used for absolute values) changes with the speed of the knob twiddling. (Eg preset 18 has a format as used by Linplug, while preset has a format used by NI). The CC96+97 standard way of incr/decr doesn't as far as I can tell respond to how fast the knob is turned, while the RPN/NRPN methods are more complex using several messages after each other.
I've created a script - RotaryToSingleCCs - that receives one of the endless dial formats available and translates them into separate incr/decr messages that Usine's can understand when MIDI mode is "relative" for a fader or whatever. Doing a normal MIDI learn will not work though as it will respond to the incoming message, not the one generated by the script.
I'll upload it to add-ons/other tonight - gotta go...!
Statistics: Posted by bsork — 09 Oct 2009, 11:36
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I agree, that looks like plain, old CC non-relative CC to me.
Statistics: Posted by bsork — 08 Oct 2009, 08:20
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Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 07 Oct 2009, 17:48
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Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 07 Oct 2009, 12:36
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I've had a quick look at the manual, and there are more listed varieties of inc/dec encoding than what was obvious from the printed preset chart, so I have to dig a bit deeper into the machine I guess. Or use the add-on.
Could one of you numerous BCF2000/BCR2000 owners out there post some examples of how how the values looks when you use the rotarys for incrementing/decrementing?
Statistics: Posted by bsork — 07 Oct 2009, 07:50
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nd also an addon ( EndlessEncoder X8 )
Statistics: Posted by nay-seven — 06 Oct 2009, 23:34
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First of all, I wasn't aware that there seems to be more than one way to encode inc/dec from the encoders, but the factory presets seems to use two or three different methods, of which "2's compliment" seems to work best with Usine.
First of all I do a MIDI learn and set the mode to "relative", and the fader or whatever responds as I expect it to as long as I move it slowly. In the console I get 176-102-01-CC which increments with 1, while 176-102-127-CC decrements with 1. Peculiar that 127 is minus and 1 is plus, but I suppose that's the way it's supposed to be.
However, when I turn the controller knob faster, the CC values moves away from 1 or 127 to create larger steps, but Usine seems to interpret everything but a value of 127 as "increment by 1", so the only way of turning down the value from the controller is slowly turning the knob anti-clockwise.
Anyone? (
I might be able to change the values sent, but so far I haven't had the time to dig down into how this can be done in the controller.)
Statistics: Posted by bsork — 06 Oct 2009, 23:21
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