ArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArrayArray BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/app.php/feed/topic/1370 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7537#p7537 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
one module filtering channel only and in parallel one filtering the same channel and the note OFF.

Hope you understand ! if not i will post a picture.

Charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 15 Feb 2009, 15:26


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2009-02-15T16:22:49+02:00 2009-02-15T16:22:49+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7536#p7536 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
Hi
I just put in parallel the same filter module to filter the same channel but filtering on top of that the note OFF !
charles
it looks like a good tip!!
can you explain just a little more?

Statistics: Posted by senso — 15 Feb 2009, 15:22


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2009-02-15T14:05:46+02:00 2009-02-15T14:05:46+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7534#p7534 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 15 Feb 2009, 13:05


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2009-02-14T19:47:17+02:00 2009-02-14T19:47:17+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7528#p7528 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
Olivier i try your suggestion and it was the same problem even with bloc size of 64 (i use an RME fire 400)

But i find an alternativ and now it work like a charm !!!

I just put in parallel the same filter module to filter the same channel but filtering on top of that the note OFF !

charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 14 Feb 2009, 18:47


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2009-02-14T16:04:22+02:00 2009-02-14T16:04:22+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7526#p7526 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 14 Feb 2009, 15:04


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2009-02-14T10:22:51+02:00 2009-02-14T10:22:51+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7524#p7524 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> try the following approach:
- reduce the best bloc size in the asio setup
- put all the midi modules in a subpatch and activate the 'unpack' in the midi in of the sub patch.
let me know.
if it still appends, send me an example by mail, I'll check it

Statistics: Posted by senso — 14 Feb 2009, 09:22


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2009-02-14T05:15:37+02:00 2009-02-14T05:15:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7522#p7522 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> . from what I feel overall feeding to much data in same midi channel tend to lost some events "catch", also if dealing with really hi speed as you mention (1/32, 64, 128). (at more 1/128 speed I think its normal it can loose an event..)
the module must have a very low but existing latency when filtering the midi in, so during that time really Hi speed event that should pass maybee don't.. This might be a patch pb, but it's maybe more because of the weird way midi send data stream not truely in a polyphonic way but event after event...kind of midi jitter pb. I just wonder why the midi has still not being updated, is it so old it will never be? always frustrating to manually toggle..
I wonder if there is a way/setting to optimize midi event catch in usine...

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 14 Feb 2009, 04:15


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2009-02-14T00:43:18+02:00 2009-02-14T00:43:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7520#p7520 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
I'm actualy using a MIDI filter module to filter MIDI chan as the simplest way by selecting the desired chan to filter in the last module parameter.

I have One MIDI wire connected in the module whith two MIDI channel data flows, only MIDI (ON/OFF) notes:

Channel 5 data and channel 1 data. (the channel number doesn't mater)

The module is filtering the Channel 5 notes and of coars the channel 1 notes are stopped (...just to be clear in my explanation).

I notice that when channel 1 data flow is very high (4 pitch notes whith low quantisation beat 1/32, 1/64...)
The module is responding strangely in the filtery process. He creat some times more note OFF than note ON....

I have to precise that channel 1 data flow for this test is very low (one same note every bar)

I guess there is a problem whith the module because when i mute upstream channel 1 data the module answer is ok ...

Do you have notice this problem ?

regards

Charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 13 Feb 2009, 23:43


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BrainModular BrainModular Users Forum 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/app.php/feed/topic/1370 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 2009-02-15T16:26:53+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7537#p7537 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
one module filtering channel only and in parallel one filtering the same channel and the note OFF.

Hope you understand ! if not i will post a picture.

Charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 15 Feb 2009, 15:26


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2009-02-15T16:22:49+02:00 2009-02-15T16:22:49+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7536#p7536 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
Hi
I just put in parallel the same filter module to filter the same channel but filtering on top of that the note OFF !
charles
it looks like a good tip!!
can you explain just a little more?

Statistics: Posted by senso — 15 Feb 2009, 15:22


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2009-02-15T14:05:46+02:00 2009-02-15T14:05:46+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7534#p7534 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 15 Feb 2009, 13:05


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2009-02-14T19:47:17+02:00 2009-02-14T19:47:17+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7528#p7528 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
Olivier i try your suggestion and it was the same problem even with bloc size of 64 (i use an RME fire 400)

But i find an alternativ and now it work like a charm !!!

I just put in parallel the same filter module to filter the same channel but filtering on top of that the note OFF !

charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 14 Feb 2009, 18:47


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2009-02-14T16:04:22+02:00 2009-02-14T16:04:22+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7526#p7526 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 14 Feb 2009, 15:04


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2009-02-14T10:22:51+02:00 2009-02-14T10:22:51+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7524#p7524 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> try the following approach:
- reduce the best bloc size in the asio setup
- put all the midi modules in a subpatch and activate the 'unpack' in the midi in of the sub patch.
let me know.
if it still appends, send me an example by mail, I'll check it

Statistics: Posted by senso — 14 Feb 2009, 09:22


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2009-02-14T05:15:37+02:00 2009-02-14T05:15:37+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7522#p7522 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]> . from what I feel overall feeding to much data in same midi channel tend to lost some events "catch", also if dealing with really hi speed as you mention (1/32, 64, 128). (at more 1/128 speed I think its normal it can loose an event..)
the module must have a very low but existing latency when filtering the midi in, so during that time really Hi speed event that should pass maybee don't.. This might be a patch pb, but it's maybe more because of the weird way midi send data stream not truely in a polyphonic way but event after event...kind of midi jitter pb. I just wonder why the midi has still not being updated, is it so old it will never be? always frustrating to manually toggle..
I wonder if there is a way/setting to optimize midi event catch in usine...

Statistics: Posted by 23fx23 — 14 Feb 2009, 04:15


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2009-02-14T00:43:18+02:00 2009-02-14T00:43:18+02:00 https://brainmodular.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1370&p=7520#p7520 <![CDATA[MIDI Filter module test !?]]>
I'm actualy using a MIDI filter module to filter MIDI chan as the simplest way by selecting the desired chan to filter in the last module parameter.

I have One MIDI wire connected in the module whith two MIDI channel data flows, only MIDI (ON/OFF) notes:

Channel 5 data and channel 1 data. (the channel number doesn't mater)

The module is filtering the Channel 5 notes and of coars the channel 1 notes are stopped (...just to be clear in my explanation).

I notice that when channel 1 data flow is very high (4 pitch notes whith low quantisation beat 1/32, 1/64...)
The module is responding strangely in the filtery process. He creat some times more note OFF than note ON....

I have to precise that channel 1 data flow for this test is very low (one same note every bar)

I guess there is a problem whith the module because when i mute upstream channel 1 data the module answer is ok ...

Do you have notice this problem ?

regards

Charles

Statistics: Posted by cybercharles — 13 Feb 2009, 23:43


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